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pooreffort

I dont know who Mr Vines is, it just seems obvious that if a magazine has no advertising it cannot survive. You cannot run a business relying on continued fresh investment. A fair number of English magazines prosper in Hong Kong and they all get adverts becuase they attract readers. Mr Vines is the publisher of Spike, so any faults with the magazine and now its demise can be directed to his door. Be honest and accept that responsibility, he would surely have claimed the glory if it was a success.

Chris

Well, I guess he feels bitter because the investor promised the money but didn't deliver.

Vines claims that "We always assumed that advertising would be a relatively small part of the income, and that certainly proved to be the case."

I think he is blaming the problems on the low circulation rather than the lack of advertising, but the fact remains that the business plan was flawed. As the publisher, Steve Vines has to take the blame for that.

Ron

All entrepreneurs know that starting a business is easy but maintaining it is tough!

Vines should have learned from Eastern Express history. Obviously, he has not.

If priced at HK$10~15, Spike could have survived longer. Buying that time with regular "cash flow," rather than solely relying on investors, should have been part of his plans. But it is a tad too late to give him any advice whatsoever.

Well, let us see how the (proposed) print edition of NTSCMP will perform. I already assume that almost 30 expatriates won't be subscribing. Yes? Or have I had one drink too many?

Cheers!

Chris

You're right, and Mr Vines has been involved in a number of failed ventures apart from EE, but I suppose he always hopes that the next one will be successful.

I only saw a few odd issues of EE, and the main thing I recall was the large number of syndicated articles from the Daily Telegraph.

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised by the comments about the cover price of Spike (HKMacs said the same thing). I didn't think it was excessive at all, and I wonder if they might have done better with a higher cover price and a bigger discount for subscribing. It isn't the price that stops me subscribing to more magazines, it's lack of time to read them.

As for the NTSCMP Print Edition, I don't think that's going to happen.

HKMacs

Let's face it, print media is dead. OK people will always buy newspapers and some specialist magazines or publications that have superior print qualities, great pictures or whatever - but a glossy satirical magazine - no way. They'd have been better off printing on cheap paper with crappy printing like Private Eye they were trying to emulate. At least that would have kept their costs down. That's how DollarSaver has managed to survive so long. The same formula worked for Target (I don't suppose that's still around, though!) As I said on my blog - they'd have been better off blogging it. Unfortunately Vines and his ilk are still living the old "journalism" and don't understand "digital".

Chris

It's an interesting point. I don't agree that print media is dead, but certainly life is getting tougher for them. I subscribe to several magazines, as well as reading lots of stuff on the Internet.

However, I have to agree that the format of Spike was all wrong. I think they needed to do one of two things - make it glossier and more up-market (more like Punch perhaps) or something similar to Private Eye. I suppose glossy paper must be more expensive, and if they could have cut costs they would have survived for longer.

The problem with digital media is how you make money. Vines is a businessman, and I imagine he wanted Spike to be profitable. Doing it on the web the costs would have been much lower, but how do make money out of it? How do you pay salaries?

jab

Expat TV, a bogus listings column, is more typical: "8:45pm Movie: The Chinese Have No Word for Love. Award-winning, tear-jerking feature film in which an expat family moves to Hong Kong and discovers that everything is shit. 11:15pm: Expat Eye for a Local Guy. Fashion makeover special, in which a group of pissed expat bankers poke fun at a local colleague's dress sense."

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